On my post the other day about insulated lunch bags, reader Sabrina left an interesting comment. She said, “I have a concern about all of these products using PET. Doesn’t it contain endocrine-disrupting chemicals?” She then referred me to a link at Healthy Child Healthy World that digs into the issue of whether or not PET bottles are releasing endocrine disruptors.

The research on how PET may leach various phthalates is in the early stages and is inconclusive, but that’s beside the point. What Sabrina actually got me thinking about is safety vs. green living, and how they don’t always go hand-in-hand.

Sometimes better safety and green living co-exist easily. Take green cleaning products. Not only is it safer to make homemade cleaners because you cut out chemicals that can hurt your kids, but it’s eco-friendly as well. Homemade green cleaners are green because they cut down on massive amounts of packaging and don’t release harmful toxins into our air, soil or water.

Not everything is so cut and dry though. For example…

Child car seats are basically big hunks of plastic. Plastic, as we all know, is made with non-renewable oil. Additionally, I’ve never seen even one car seat (as of yet)  made with organic fabrics and few are made with child-safe dyes. Car seats are about as opposite of eco-friendly as you can get. Yet, obviously car seats are 100% safer than tying your baby down with a nice recycled box and some organic hemp rope – know what I mean?

Or take the lunch bag situation I mention above. Plastic coated lunch bags, vinyl, recycled plastic and other materials may contain more chemicals than an old fashioned organic cotton lunch sack, making them less green. But on the flip side, if you’re talking safety, organic cotton is a horrid insulator. Even with an ice pack melting all over your organic bag, you’re going to run into food safety issues, because clearly the bag lacks insulation.

We could even bring ice pop molds into the mix. You’ve got silicone molds, which I’m a fan of, but some people think aren’t safe. Or you could go with plastic molds, that may contain chemicals, but they will massively reduce your household waste over packaged ice pops. Do you go with the plastic ice pop molds to avoid waste or say to heck with it and buy the packaged ice pops?

I’ve owned lots of items that aren’t eco-friendly, but that are necessary. For example, my son’s two car seats, child safety products like door latches and non-eco-friendly band-aids (because good luck finding the greener kind at your local store). We’ve owned bike helmets and non-organic sports safety gear (like pads and such) and non-eco backpacks because the less eco one fit my son better.

Overall, it can be a little bit of a mess if you live in today’s world and you’re striving to be safe and green. You can’t always choose both.

What to do? 

I can only speak for myself, but I try not to dwell too much on what I’m doing wrong in the world of green. That’s a recipe for mental anguish that I don’t need. If we need something for safety reasons, and it’s not available in an eco-friendly version, I’ll still bring it into my house if it’s necessary.

Sometimes I feel guilty sure, but then I remind myself that we haven’t brought a grocery store plastic bag or roll of paper towels into this house in years and years. We always use reusable water bottles and we drink plain old tap water vs. using bottled or a plastic, non-recyclable filter. We don’t buy a bunch of consumer junk we don’t need and we  buy used before new when we can. We use green cleaners and PVC-free shower curtains and glass dishes over plastic. I don’t have the greenest car on the market, but I did get the most efficient I could and I keep driving to a minimum. If we can’t afford the greenest sunscreen – well, we do the best we can.

It’s the green actions you DO manage that make the biggest impact. Little things add up. In the end, I want safe and I want green. If I can only have safety, I deal with it and hopefully make green amends in another area of my world.

What do you think? Is it hard to choose between safe vs. green at times? Tell me in the comments and take the poll below…

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Today we’ve got a reader 2-part question, collected from the Seventh Generation company review post:

The first part of the question…

“My mom is transitioning from nasty chemical cleaning products and detergents to relatively more eco-friendly choices, such as Seventh Generation. However, she asked me if she should use up the nasty stuff she has (she still has A LOT of that) or just throw it all out.

Do you recommend she use that stuff up or just throw it out? (She’s already bought 7th generation products). It’s such a (financial and otherwise) waste to just throw it all out. The ecological damage of it ending up in a landfill or going into the water system seems negligible (yes?) but in terms of the health hazards of continuing to use the nasty stuff, I’m less sure.”

Actually of all the green questions I’ve received via email or comments over the years, I’d guess this is the most commonly asked. I see this as a positive. It shows that folks are thinking about tossing icky toxic cleaners in exchange for better, healthier cleaners.

1. Which household cleaners are worth keeping? Really, very few conventional cleaners are safe. I recommend only using green cleaners. The EPA notes that the following conventional cleaning products should be of concern regarding health; “bath and kitchen disinfectants and sanitizers, including bleach, household cleaning or maintenance products, such as drain cleaner, paints, or glues, automotive products stored around the home, such as anti-freeze or windshield washer fluid, products used to kill mold or mildew.” WHEW that doesn’t leave much.

The American Lung Association suggests you use safe, green and natural cleaners whenever possible. I can’t personally suggest you keep any of the conventional cleaners you have, because I wouldn’t use them myself. See how seriously dangerous chemical cleaners are.

Basically, if the label reads like a chem book, not a cookbook, I’d toss that cleaner.

2. Smart chemical cleaner disposal. Obviously you don’t want to give these cleaners to anyone else and tossing them in the sink or on the street is a big NO. Cleaners can be just as toxic to the environment as they are to you. When you release hazardous materials into the groundwater system, air and soil you’re not helping the situation.

Luckily, there are ethical and safe chemical cleaner disposal methods.

• If you live in a large urban area, (Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago and New York) check out Apartment Therapy’s urban list of where to dispose of unwanted chemicals.

• Check with your local recycling center. They may not accept hazardous waste, but they likely can tell you who will.

• Earth 911 lists at least a dozen hazardous waste drop-off locations in my area that accept cleaning products. You can do an easy search for your own local city at Earth 911 too.

• If you do a general online search choose your city (we’ll use Portland) and then enter a term like, “HHW drop off in Portland, Oregon” or “HHW collection in Portland, Oregon.“

• Look on the back of the package. Find the manufacturer’s toll-free number and call them for disposal recommendations.

NOTE! Some manufacturers will tell you that any water-based product is perfectly safe to toss in the drain. I don’t agree, but since many HHW collectors do think anything water based is safe to toss, you may not always have a choice.  For example, I’ve been told by many a cleaning company that bleach is considered safe to dump down a drain and I know some HHW collection sites won’t take bleach because of this. Thankfully, HHW collectors where I live now, do consider anything with the words “Poison” on it a HHW so they’ll take cleaners.

The second part of the question:

“Can you recommend websites with data on health hazards of common cleaning products? (She uses shout, cascade, Palmolive, Clorox…).”

To find out how many dangerious ingredients are in basic store-bought cleaners visit the Household Products Database. Make a list of the chemicals in said cleaner, then head to the OSHA/EPA Occupational Chemical Database and enter any chemical to see how dangerious it is.

The Environmental Working Group maintains a chemical index list along with a routes of exposure list that covers plenty of cleaners.

You can also do a general online search for a cleaning product’s MSDS sheet, although, they’re full of info supplied by the company, thus not always accurate. As an MSDS example, you can check out Clorox – as much as I don’t like them, they do make their MSDS sheets easily available to the public. I’m not saying buy from them, but one simple search of Clorox MSDS brought up a great Clorox provided list.

Keep in mind – no matter what database you use to look up cleaners, it’s not going to be terribly useful. As consumers, we honestly know very little about what’s in cleaners, thanks to the government.

As I’ve noted before, 3 decades ago Congress passed the Toxic Substances Control Act (TCSA) but to date the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has tested only 200 of the more than 80,000 chemical compounds developed for all sorts of products used in the home; cleaners included.

That’s a whole lot of chemicals not tested for safety, which is why it’s smart to avoid all of them. I suggest taking the road of least risk with regards to cleaners. If the government and all these cleaning companies don’t think we deserve to know what chemicals we’re using, why use them?

It’s Poison Prevention Week 2010 and part of this week’s campaign is focused on the safety of household cleaning products. Sadly, Poison Prevention, the organization behind the event references Clean and Safe in the 21st Century (pdf) as the guide to have if you’re concerned about household cleaner safety.

Clean and Safe is a guide created by the The Soap and Detergent Association (SDA), an organization who sort of frowns on homemade cleaners. SDA notes, “When consumers purchase commercial cleaning products, they bring home not only a mixture of ingredients, but years of the manufacturer’s experience and expertise on the safe and effective use of each product.” However, what they’re not talking about are all those chemicals and other icky ingredients you find in conventional cleaners. That’s funny, because ironically many conventional cleaners are full of poison – yes stuff that will harm or even kill you. Of course, what else would you expect from SDA – it is their job to promote conventional cleaning companies.

Now that said, the one decent thing I’ve seen from SDA are their tips surrounding using homemade cleaners safely. While I don’t agree with their ideal that commercial cleaners are the best and safest bet, I do like their tips about how to safely mix and use homemade cleaners.

If you make homemade green cleaners; and for safety’s sake I hope you do, you should follow these tips from SDA…

Check with manufacturers of the individual ingredients to see if they recommend the mixture, or if there are any hazards associated with using their products in this manner. This is more if you use an ingredient such as Borax, natural soap, or an essential oil. Of course you’re not going to check with your local grocer to make sure lemons are safe to clean the toilet with (they are).

Never use empty cleaning product bottles to mix your own cleaning products. Not only could a reaction occur with any product residue, but the commercial product label will not reflect information about the mix-at-home contents and may cause confusion or mistreatment in an emergency situation. I suggest purchasing a set of plain old reusable spray bottles for homemade cleaners. You should also label clearly, such as, “Homemade Lavender Oil & Natural Soap Bathroom Spray.”

Never store mix-at-home products in food containers. The contents could be mistaken for food by young children, the elderly and people with impaired vision. This is a great tip. It’s smart to reuse containers, but it’s never smart to use food containers for cleaners because little kids will get into everything.

A few tips from me…

Always check that no one in your home has an allergic reaction to an essential oil or herb before you use it in a cleaning product. These are natural ingredients, but natural does not mean safe for everyone.

Keep all cleaning products out of reach of children – even natural cleaners pose a risk if a small child gets his hands on them. If you buy conventional cleaners, store-bought green cleaners, or make natural homemade cleaners, it doesn’t matter – keep them away from the kids.

While cleaning, keep an eye on the kids. Part of green cleaning is using water for many cleaning endeavors; say a bucket of water for washing windows. Water is a huge danger to small children. Your child can drown in as little as a few inches of water and he can drown quickly (in less than one minute). NEVER leave a bucket or tub of water in the room with a child.

Do you have any other homemade cleaning safety tips to share?

Review summary: An excellent toilet bowl cleaner with few negatives – find out why this is one of the RARE green cleaning products I’d suggest buying over making a homemade version yourself.

Product: Seventh Generation Toilet Bowl Cleaner, Emerald Cypress & Fir Scent from Seventh Generation

Use: As you might have guessed this toilet bowl cleaner, is surprise, used for cleaning your toilet. Shocking I know. The perk is that this product manages to clean and deodorize without the harsh fumes, harmful chemicals, or dyes that are found in most other toilet cleaners.

Cost: The best deal I’ve seen online is to buy Seventh Generation Toilet Bowl Cleaner in bulk at Amazon which works out to about $4 per 32 oz. bottle. It’s usually a little more costly at my local grocery store although it does go on sale from time to time. Seventh Generation also offers coupons at their website.

Ingredients: Aqua (water), lactic acid (plant-derived demineralizer), polyglucose, coceth-7, coceth-4 and deceth-5 (plant-derived cleaning agents), xanthan gum (natural thickener), peg-15 cocomonium chloride (plant-containing cleaning agent)*, essential oils and botanical extracts** (citrus aurantifolia (lime), abies balsamea (balsam fir), calilistris columellaris (emerald cypress).

Eco-perks:

• Non-toxic & biodegradable
• Does not create harsh fumes
• Safe for septic & greywater systems
• Not tested on animals
• Kosher-certified
• Bottle is recyclable and they place a “Please recycle reminder” on the bottle.

What I think:

To be honest, I’ve bought very few Seventh Generation products with my own cold hard cash. I LOVE testing products out for reviews, because I know many people won’t take the time to make their own homemade cleaners, so I want to recommend good products for these folks.

However, I do like to make homemade cleaners so buying cleaning products isn’t something I do much. Most of the time the cleaning products I review are sent to me free of charge from the company. Usually even if I like them, my brain thinks hmmmm, I could make this myself, I won’t be buying it.

Now, the above said, of all the home cleaning products I’ve reviewed, this toilet bowl cleaner is one of the very few that I have actually bought once the test sample ran out – with my own money. This cleaner is just that good.

The test run:

I cleaned two toilets in my first test run; one with this Seventh Generation toilet cleaner and one with the homemade cleaner I usually use – baking soda and lemon juice. In both cases I let the cleaners sit for a few minutes before scrubbing.

After cleaning both toilets smelled fresh. However, the  Seventh Generation toilet was far shiner and cleaner looking plus I didn’t have to scrub as much. This cleaner works crazy fast. Additionally, the Seventh Generation cleaned toilet stayed clean longer, smelled better longer, and there was no baking soda spilled on the floor to clean up (which usually happens).

Why I’ll buy this again…

• As noted above it works awesome. I’m not usually overly impressed with store-bought green cleaners, but this one rocks.
• I LOVE the scent, which is clean and fresh, but not at all chemical or perfume-like. I haven’t tried too many green toilet bowl cleaners, but the few I have tried (besides this one) still smelled kind of chemical to me. This scent is very pine-minded and clean.
• The bottle is well made with a small squeeze spout that gets the cleaner under the toilet rim easily.
• Lastly a 32 oz. bottle lasts you a good long while.

Were there any negatives?

• As with any store bought green cleaner, the biggest downside is packaging. If you make your own cleaners at home you lose this negative. I think Seventh Generation should sell a bulk size or a concentrated mix-your-own size to cut down on packaging.
• More expensive than homemade green toilet bowl cleaner (i.e. lemons and baking soda).
• I’m worried the scent might be too much for people who are scent sensitive. I loved the smell and didn’t find it overwhelming, but it’s noticeable, so I’d be careful if you’re a scent-free lovin’ type.

Overall score:

Four and 1/2 out of five happy little trees!

The bottle is an issue for me. One, I wish they had a bulk size. Even though the bottle is recyclable, it’s still a drain on resources. That said, I’ve bought this with my own money, which almost never happens if there’s a homemade option and I’m sure I’ll buy it again. It’s one of those rare instances where I’m going to recommend a store-bought cleaning product as better than homemade.

Helpful links…

• Learn more at Seventh Generation: Emerald Cypress & Fir Toilet Bowl Cleaner
• Buy at Amazon: Seventh Generation Toilet Bowl Cleaner, Emerald Cypress & Fir Scent, 32-Ounces Bottle

See my green product rating system and green product rating criteria or read more green product reviews.

There’s a lot to be said for using greener cleaning products. Conventional cleaners come with a slew of issues ranging from health concerns, to home and planet pollution, to death. Following are ten problems and hazards of conventional cleaners to consider.

1) We really have no clue what’s in most cleaners or what the full negative effects of said cleaners may be…

• About 3 decades ago Congress passed the Toxic Substances Control Act (TCSA) but to date the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has tested only 200 of the more than 80,000 chemical compounds developed for all sorts of products used in the home; cleaners included.
• The National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) has found that one-third of the substances used in the fragrance industry are toxic which includes those fragrances found in air fresheners. However, chemical formulas of fragrances are considered trade secrets, so companies don’t have to list fragrance ingredients on labels of products, they only need to label them as containing “fragrance.”

2) Conventional cleaners are not well tested or regulated for safety…

• Neither cleaning product manufacturers or the EPA have to prove a chemical’s safety as a condition of use in the home. Safe or not, any old cleaner can be sold on the market. The funny part is you’d think they’d try harder since the EPA also notes that the following conventional cleaning products should be of concern when it comes to your child’s health; bath and kitchen disinfectants and sanitizers, including bleach, household cleaning or maintenance products, such as drain cleaner, paints, or glues, automotive products stored around the home, such as anti-freeze or windshield washer fluid, products used to kill mold or mildew.
• The National Research Council notes, “Less than 20% of chemicals in every-day use products have been tested for acute effects and less than 10% have been tested for chronic, reproductive or mutagenic effects.“

3) Conventional cleaners affect your health & safety…

• Most of the major household cleaners on the market contain chemicals, fragrances, and other icky junk that come with health problems and or hazard warnings attached to them. To see just how many dangerious ingredients are in cleaners visit the Household Products Database. Then head to the OSHA/EPA Occupational Chemical Database and enter a chemical to see how dangerious it is.
• The The Washington Toxics Coalition (among many other organizations and studies) notes that conventional cleaning products can burn skin or eyes, irritate the lungs, aggravate asthma, and cause death.
• The American Lung Association says, “Household cleaning agents that contain potentially harmful substances that contribute to indoor air pollution is wide-reaching and diverse.” They further note that household cleaners can cause dizziness, nausea, allergic reactions, and eye, skin, and respiratory tract irritation and that some can cause cancer. They recommend using non-toxic cleaning alternatives whenever possible.
• OSHA is so concerned with common cleaning products that they developed an entire safety protocol program just for people who work with typical chemicals found in household cleaners. OSHA notes that health problems related to cancer, skin issues, permanent eye damage, and organ damage develop quicker than normal for those who work with these chemical cleaning products daily. People who use these cleaners for professional cleaning do use more full strength cleaners AND are exposed to more cleaners on a daily basis, BUT it’s important for families to realize that the exact same ingredients are found in both industrial cleaners and household cleaners.
• The EPA notes that indoor air pollution levels can be as much as 100 times worse than outdoor air pollution due mainly to volatile organic compounds (VOCs) that evaporate from home decorating and cleaning supplies. Many minor health effects have been linked to indoor air pollution plus the EPA notes that worse health effects may show up either years after exposure has occurred and can include some respiratory diseases, heart disease, and cancer.

4) Conventional cleaners specifically target parents of babies and children but can seriously affect young children’s health & safety…

• American Association of Poison Control Centers notes that 1.25 million kids younger than six years of age are unintentionally poisoned in the home each year by common household products. Some are items you’d expect like pain relievers and cough and cold medicines but kids are also being poisoned by cleaning supplies, cosmetics, and personal care products that contain harmful chemicals. Along side of this, U.S. Poison Control Centers note that in 2000, cleaning products accounted for 206,636 phone calls to the centers. Of these calls over 120,000 involved children under the age of six.
• It is incredibly hard for children to distinguish the differences between chemical cleaners and safe edible items. For example, bottles of blue Windex and bottles of blue Gatorade look remarkably similar.
• The Environmental Working Group (EWG) found that conventional cleaning supplies along with some store bought green cleaners used to clean school classrooms release 32 tons of contaminants into the air each day in California alone. EWG tests found that 21 of the typical cleaners used for school cleaning released 457 distinct air contaminants overall.
• Babies in the womb are far from safe. The European Respiratory Journal, reports that expectant mamas who use household cleaning products may be putting their child at an increased risk of developing asthma as a youngster and the EWG notes that 232 industrial chemicals and pollutants have been found in the umbilical cord blood of newborns.
• VOCs found in oven, carpet, and other cleaners containing Toluene, Formaldehyde, Nitrobenzene, Chloride, Methylene, and Ethylene glycol have been shown to cause asthma in children.
• Typical household cleaning products have been linked to childhood leukemia.

5) Many people don’t use chemical cleaners correctly…

1. Research shows that people terribly misuse household chemicals. People mix them when they shouldn’t and don’t use proper protection. For example, if you have a bucket of ammonia diluted with water and you pour that in your bathtub, and then wipe down that same tub with a sponge that has bleach on it, you’re already producing toxic gas at such an extreme level that it can be classified as harmful to humans.
2. Many of the chemicals found in cleaning supplies are only supposed to be used with protective equipment. This means gloves, eye goggles, long sleeves, and face masks. If you aren’t cleaning your home with protective gear then technically you aren’t following proper safety procedures, and you shouldn’t be using the products.

6) Conventional cleaners are harmful for the planet…

• Phosphates in dish washing detergents can cause massive algal blooms in our water systems that mess with the natural ecosystem by stealing oxygen from the water.
• When people use or dump toxic chemical cleaners those chemicals end up in our water, soil, and air.
• The mounds of trash created by endless bottles, plastic wrap waste, and even cardboard (a very easy to recycle item) fill up our landfills leaving less room for green spaces. Green products for cleaning have biodegradability, high concentration, and reduced packaging in common, all of which benefit the earth.

7) Super germs are no joke…

According to a presentation from the 2000 Emerging Infectious Diseases Conference in Atlanta, Georgia, and backed up by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and a slew of other research, antibacterial cleaners may be decreasing antibiotic efficiency, have not been demonstrated useful for households, and extended use will only encourage the growth of antimicrobial drug–resistant species as time passes.

Here are some key points from this presentation:

“The antibacterial substances added to diverse household cleaning products are similar to antibiotics in many ways. When used correctly, they inhibit bacterial growth. However, their purpose is not to cure disease but to prevent transmission of disease-causing microorganisms to noninfected persons. Like antibiotics, these products can select resistant strains and, therefore, overuse in the home can be expected to propagate resistant microbial variants. Moreover, these agents, like antibiotics, are not cure-alls but have a designated purpose. Whereas antibiotics are designed to treat bacterial (not viral) infections, antibacterial products protect vulnerable patients from infectious disease-causing organisms. Neither are demonstrably useful in the healthy household.”

“Unfortunately, we believe that we can rid ourselves of bacteria when, in fact, we cannot. Instead, we should “make peace” with them. Although we need to control pathogens when they cause disease, we do not have to engage in a full-fledged “war” against the microbial world. Improved antibiotic use, including shorter treatments and removal of improper usage, will encourage the return of antibiotic-susceptible, commensal flora and return the environment to what it was before the antibiotic/antibacterial onslaught.”

More research that points toward super germs emerging due to our over zealous cleaning and disinfecting:

• Antibacterial Cleaning Products and Drug Resistance
• The Alliance for the Prudent Use of Antibiotics
• The Department of Physics at the University of Illinois
• Worldwatch Institute

If you don’t believe the research above take a basic microbiology course at the local college – you’ll be thinking about germs in another light.

8 ) Most conventional cleaners are way over-packaged…

This isn’t a very long argument but a basic fact; if you buy conventional cleaners you’re dealing with plastic bottles, plastic wrapped boxes, and more waste. Plus most conventional cleaners are made to be purchased over and over which contributes to the issue.

9) Most conventional cleaning companies test on animals…

Whether you’re an animal rights activist or not you should be very concerned about companies testing products on animals. The reason products are tested on animals is because companies don’t trust the products to be tested on humans or aren’t allowed to test harmful substances on humans. If a product must be tested on a living thing – animal or human it’s because folks aren’t sure about the effects of said product, which should worry you.

10) Many conventional cleaning products are made with non-renewable resources…

Many conventional cleaners use chemicals that are petroleum-based which depletes non-renewable resources and increases our dependence on imported oil. For example, surfactants which are found in many cleaning products can be petroleum or plant based. Why use petroleum based when you could choose plant based surfactants?

TO SUM UP:

With all the news out there surrounding the hazards of conventional cleaning products, frankly I’m shocked that anyone would still use them in their home. That said, plenty of people are still using toxic cleaners frequently and worse, at least according to past research by the Soap and Detergent Association (SDA), more than eight out of ten Americans feel that the conventional cleaning products they buy are safe when used as directed.

Luckily there are simple alternatives to conventional cleaners – coming up we’ll look at some green cleaning options.

What do you think? Do you trust conventional cleaners enough to use them around your kids?